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Sudden Evolution, Missing Fossil Links, and the Unseen Cause of Rapid Genetic Mutation

Evolution in the Bible - Fallen Angels Begat New Species

Intelligent Interference, NOT Intelligent Design

Fossils Say Alien Abduction Happened for Millions of Years

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Witchcraft by Aliens!

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Fossil Frankensteins - Aliens Made Hybrids for Millions of Years!

Gnosticism = Christianity That Agrees with Evolution

Aliens Before Humans, What Are the Odds?

Sudden Transitions in the Fossil Record

Jesus Was Against Creationism - Proof from the Gospels

Esoteric Evidence for Jesus

Is Jesus A Space Alien?

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"Almighty God" is a Mistranslation

TOO QUICK FOR DARWIN What Shell Were Primitive Turtles Hiding Under?

Ancient Christian Texts say "Humans Are Animals"

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Fishy Mammal Reptiles

The Universe Was Created out of Stupidity

Creationism Was Fraudulently Added to the Bible at a Late Date

Dinosaurs > Birds, But Why Do the Feathered Dinosaurs Arrive AFTER the Earliest Birds?

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The Sudden Appearance of Ichthyosaurs in the Fossil Record

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Can Your Monkey Cross the Ocean on a Big Log?

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DNA Stir Fry from Extinct Species

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Genesis 1 vs Genesis 2

Why Aliens Must Have Evolved Before Humans

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Alien Genetic Engineering

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United Nations Knows About Aliens Breeding with Animals

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Rapid Evolution of Certain Amphibians

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Was Christ a Mere Myth?

Aliens Bring Extinct Species Back to Life

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Aliens Fucking Catfish

Jesus Against Genesis - Christ Was NOT a Creationist

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Genesis 1 Is Witchcraft!

If Evolution Efficiently Creates the Best Structure, then Why Are Birds, Bats, and Pterosaurs So Different?

END TIMES, Alien-Human Hybrid Nephilim Monsters

 

Krishna and Christ; Who Came First? Which of Them is the Copycat Myth?

The similarities between Krishna and Christ have captured the attention of scholars for years.  The initial reaction by scholars like Weber and Hopkins was to suggest that the Krishna legends copied earlier Christian stories; and for good reason, because the Krishna legends most similar to Christ were developed after Christ.  Raychaudhuri in his book Materials for the Study of the Early History of the Vaishnava Sect states on page 3, “I have then tried to show that this Bhakti religion is not a plagiarism from Christianty, but owes its origin to Vasudeva.”  Raychaudhuri successfully does this in his book, but in the process, inadvertently destroys any hope an anti-Christian copycat theorist might have at proving Christianity to be a plagiarism from Vaishnavism.  He quotes Weber on page 86, saying, “Weber adds that ‘in the train of the birth-day festival we must suppose that other legendary matters came to India which are found in the accounts of the Harivamsa, of the Jaimini Bharata, and in some interpolated passages of the Mahabharata, in the Puranas, especially in the Bhagavata Purana and its offshoots which describe and embellish the birth and childhood of Krishna with notices which remind us irresistibly of Christian legends.  Take, for example, the statement of the Vishnu Purana that Nanda, the foster-father of Krishna, at the time of the latter’s birth, went with his pregnant wife Yasoda to Mathura to pay taxes (paralleled in Luke 2:4-5) or the pictorial representation of the birth of Krishna in the cowstall or shepherd’s hut, that corresponds to the manger, and of the shepherds, shepherdesses, the ox and the ass that stand round the woman as she sleeps peacefully on her couch without fear of danger.  Then the stories of the persecutions of Kamsa, of the massacre of the innocents (babies), of the passage across the river (Christophoros), of the wonderful deeds of the child, of the healing-virtue of the water in which he was washed, etc., etc.  Whether the accounts given in the Jaimini Bharata of the raising to life by Krishna of the dead son of Duhsala, of the cure of Kubja, of her pouring a vessel of ointment over him, of the power of his look to take away sin, and other subjects of the kind came to India in the same connection with the birth-day festival may remain an open question.’” 

 

Dating the Krishna Related Writings

            To solve the question, it is necessary to date the legends.  In order to do this it is necessary to realize the historical situation in India.  The religion of the Bhagavadas, a devotional creed to Vasudeva, probably emerged before the 400’s BC (Raychaudhuri, 13, 18)  In the 330’s BC, Greek influence spread as Alexander swept across Persia.  The middle half of the 200’s BC was the reign of Asoka, in which Buddhism became the state religion.  The Buddhist antagonism towards the Brahman priesthood and the caste system caused religious tension between Buddhists and Hindus.  This tension continued for centuries.  Differing sects such as the Jains, Saivists, and Buddhists challenged the old Vedic Hinduism.  Finally, towards the beginning of the Gupta dynasty in the 300’s AD, a new form of Hinduism triumphed and the Vaishnava faith became standardized from a plethora of various religious groups.  It is generally agreed by most scholars that the Hindu texts dealing with Krishna’s legend did not reach their final form until halfway through the Gupta dynasty sometime around 350 – 500 AD.  Most of them were not even written until this time.  We will investigate the works that contain the Krishna legend as follows:

 

The Bhagavad Gita:  The Only pre-Christian Writing about Krishna

 

The Origins of Krishna Worship

 

The Hindu holy books have been mixed up, changed, interpolated, abridged, and some even lost.  (Banerjee, 22)  The date of final redaction of the Mahabharata, Ramayana, and the other Puranas extends from 500 AD – 1600 AD, according to Banerjee. (Banerjee, 56)  Vaishnava and the worship of Krishna did not really solidify into a standardized religion until the 300’s AD.  However, the legend pre-dated the religion, and many ancient people did not care if they polluted the legend with additions and changes.  To them they were not holy books yet – only novels for amusement and spiritual anecdotes that could freely be embellished.  Later they became revered as holy books.  At the earliest days of the Mahabharata, Krishna-Vasudeva was a superhero man-god who was, at best, loosely connected with Vishnu.  This was before Vishnu became the God of gods.  Krishna worship was antagonistic to the Brahman priesthood and to their chief Vedic god Indra.  The Brahmans later stole or agreed to borrow the myth and corrupted it to suit their own purposes.  In the face of the Buddhist and Jain competition which was undermining their power, and possibly with interference from the Bhagavata sect, the conservative religious leaders associated with Vedic Brahmanism took the myth originally created by the Bhagavatas and retold it to suit their own agenda.  Around five hundred years later, Vishnu became the God of gods and Rama and Krishna became his most beloved incarnations.  (Gonda, 154-167)  Banerjee says, “It (the Mahabharata) has gone through various recensions, many of which are the result of Brahmanical accretions.” (Banerjee, 44) The best way to fight a competing sect was to steal their mythology and rewrite it.  There is no telling how many different conflicting stories of Krishna were competing between 400 BC and 400 AD. 

 

The Case for Christian Influence Upon Krishna Legends

Christian influence in India during the time of Krishna’s evolution is well known.  2% of India’s population today are Christians who trace their roots to the 1st century AD when the apostle Thomas allegedly evangelized in India.  Lorinser believed Christian communities and an Indian New Testament to exist in India in the 200’s AD. (Raychaudhuri, 92)  The Brahman priests could have absorbed Christian legend and re-wrote it the same way they did to the Bhagavatas.  Even if Christianity never penetrated India so early, Christian legends could have been absorbed other ways.  The Hindus have a long history of absorbing foreign mythology.  Krishna was killed by an arrow in the foot because his foot was the only vulnerable spot on his body.  This sounds like the much older Achilles myth of Homer’s Iliad.  One of Krishna’s 180,000 children was Pradyumna, who was swallowed by a large fish in the ocean and was later removed when a fisherman’s wife cut open the fish.  This sounds faintly like the story of Jonah at the time of Assyrian Nineveh (700-400 BC), which pre-dates all the Krishna legends.  The story of Matsya, the first incarnation of Vishnu, is too much like the Gilgamesh and Noah flood legends to ignore.  Gilgamesh and Genesis date at least 1400 years or so before Vishnu was even considered a great god, let alone the 500+ years after that when the Bhagavata Purana finalized the ten avatars of Vishnu. (Gupta, 32-35)  Some Indians honored Herakles (Hercules?) as a god in the 300’s BC.  Despite his quest to prove Krishna worship is relatively free from outside tales, Raychaudhuri tells us that the “rank growth of legend” has obscured the historical Krishna, Buddha, and Asoka. (Raychaudhuri, 23-24)  In the true Hindu spirit of inclusive religion, the Indians absorbed ancient myths bouncing around the ancient world and synthesized them into their own religion.

 

Similarities Between Christ and Krishna

We now move to specific “similarities” as defined by the christmyth theorists.

Keep in mind, the Bhagavad Gitais the only scripture related to Krishna worship that likely predates Jesus Christ’s life on earth.

The trimurti solidified after the time of Christ, and with it, Vishnu’s place as the second member of the Hindu trimurti.  In the Rig Veda, Vishnu is called the doorkeeper of the gods, which means he was devoted to some higher god. (Gonda, 93) He is ordered around by Indra. (Raychaudhuri, 8)  Hindus consider the Vedas scripture, but the Mahabharata, Bhagavad Gita, the Puranas, and other epics and codes are regarded as holy books with less authority. (Banerjee, 20)  Hence, the worship of Vishnu as the God of gods seems contrary to their own scriptures.  In the Vedas, Indra, Agni, and Soma are far greater than Brahma and Shiva.  Although Jesus does have a similarity with Vishnu in that they both are the primary source of God’s incarnation(s), the concept of avatar was still evolving well into the Christian era.  The Ramayana was written in the 200’s BC when Indra was still the chief god, but Rama was not identified with Vishnu until a later chapter was added to the Ramayana around 150 – 200 AD. (Jaiswal, 8,9)  The trinity of Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva is generally considered to be a very late arrival to the Mahabharata because it is a product of syncretism. (Jaiswal, 21)  Krishna and Vishnu were “long in fusing” because the Bhagavad Gita emphasizes Krishna’s identity with Vasudeva-Narayana more than that with Vishnu. (Gonda, 158-159)  The trimurti is post-Vedic and associated with the Puranas. (Banerjee, 67)  The Bhagavad Gita is the only source for the Krishna legend that could possibly be dated before the time of Christ.  In it, Krishna says, “I am Vishnu,” but also says in the same place, “I am Indra,” “I am the god of destruction (Shiva?)” and “I am the moon, I am the mind, I am the light.” (Bhagavad Gita 10:21) He also frequently calls himself the creator (Brahman?)  It is obvious that Krishna can be associated with all three of the trimurti members, along with other gods and everything in general.  After all, God is everything in pantheism.  Vaishnavism and the notion that Krishna was an avatar of Vishnu in particular does not appear until after the Christian era.  Altogether, the Hindu “trinity” is nothing like the Christian trinity, and the Hindu “trinity” was still evolving centuries after Christ. 

 

Christ and Krishna:  The Differences

Krishna is not that similar to Christ outside of a few borrowed stories.  In fact, the totality of Krishna's story is quite different from that of Christ. The following exploits of Krishna are taken from Shakti Gupta’s Book, Vishnu and His Incarnations, p. 28-38. 

Such is Krishna's story, a mixture of pantheistic metaphysical speculation with outrageous stories that amuse our base instincts, founded in the name of a legendary warrior-cowboy unknown to verifiable history. 

The earliest source for Krishna comes from the Bhagavad Gita. Its teachings are not much similiar to Christianity.  The language of the Bhagavad Gita is in some ways similiar to John's Gospel, but there are no borrowed myths between them and they differ widely on belief.  Krishna teaches reincarnation, but John indicates that Jesus rejected the notion of karma and reincarnation, saying that people are not punished in their next life for sins in a previous life (Bhagavad Gita 2:12-13, 4:5 vs. John 9:1-3).  Krishna acknowledges that faith and love are more important than works and wisdom, but he says that a soul must be reincarnated a few more times to reach perfection even after the soul has faith – unlike Jesus who taught salvation occurred at the point of faith.  (Bhagavad Gita 6:37-47 vs. Luke 23:39-43)  Krishna identifies himself with other gods and tolerates the worship of other gods as one of many legitimate methods of worship, although not the best method. This differs widely from John's teachings on idolatry and indeed from all the Bible, which is pervasively intolerant towards the worship of other gods besides our covenant God.  (Bhagavad Gita 9:23-25, 10:21 vs. 1 John 5:21)  Unlike the Bhagavad Gita, the Christian scriptures never assert that all gods come from a single Godhead. For Krishna, time is circular and the end of the age is unclear.  For Jesus, history has a purpose with a definite end.  (Bhagavad Gita 9:7-8 vs. Matthew 24:3-35)  Jesus recognizes a transcendent God greater than his own personal avatar and recognizes an authority higher than himself.  Krishna seems to make no distinction between his own personal avatar and the transcendent Godhead.  (John 14:28-31) Although the Bhagavad Gita is similiar to John's Gospel in terms of metaphors and discourse, it is only a similiarity of style, not of belief. The other Gospels and the rest of the Bible are neither similiar in style nor belief to the Bhagavad Gita.

Bibliography

Banerjee, Invitation to Hinduism.  Humanities Press Inc. Atlantic Highlands, New Jersey.  1978

The Bhagavad Gita.

Gonda, J., Aspects of Early Visnuism.  Motilal Banarsidass, Delhi.  1969

Gupta, Shakti M., Vishnu and His Incarnations.  Somaiya Publications Ltd., Bombay.  1974

Jaiswal, Suvira, The Origin and Development of Vaisnavism (Vaisnavism from 200 B.C. to A.D. 500).  Munshiram Manoharlal Publishers, Delhi.  1967

Raychaudhuri, Hemchandra, Materials for the Study of the Early History of the Vaishnava Sect.  Munshiram Manoharlal Publishers.  New Delhi.  1975

 

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